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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:32:12 AM

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Hi everyone, I am new here and have just started getting into Wicca following the death of my child. I guess I was christian but could not get any kind of comfort from this religion & I didn't really know what I believed. A few months ago I was in a bookshop and found myself in the Occult section. I started looking at some of the titles and found a book called 'Wicca For Beginners'. It cost £9.99 and when I looked in my purse I had that amount exactly. I thought what the hell and bought the book and when I started reading it I found that it actually made a lot of sense to me. I liked that fact there is not just one God who we must worship but that there are many deitys, all connected to the Great God and Goddess. I took great comfort in the idea of recycling energies and that my child who has passed over was around me in the ground I walk on and the air I breathe and I was sure that I was on the right path. However, I did my first spell last night, a home protection spell and it seemed to go well but when I went to sleep I had terrible nightmares and my second daughter who is in good health cried all night and was very unsettled. I now feel that I have done something very wrong and brought some kind of dark spirit or force into my home. Can anyone help me?!
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 3:21:24 PM

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Merry Meet<br/><br/>please do not worry. By doing spellwork of this kind you will not invite anything dark or horrible into your life! Have you looked at the Wiccan Rede? If you are not harming anyone then what you do is for your own consience to bear and as for your daughter, i'm sure she was just having a restless night as all children do sometimes. The coincidence of the two is probably more down to maybe some uncertainess on your behalf - do you truly feel ready for spellwork or feel comfortable with the concept of withcraft given your previous christian faith?That is more likely the explanations of the nightmares. If you know this is the path for you - maybe you should try to relax a bit more about it and maybe do alot more research until you feel more confidant about the spellwork? You don't have to do work magic in order to be a good wiccan. Please beleive that you have done nothing wrong and nothing bad is going to come out of it. Blessed Be x
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Posted: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 5:05:58 PM

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Your nightmares probably come from your worries about it being your first ritual. When you do something on your own (solitary) there is nobody there to tell you you did it 'right or wrong', so you are left with your own mind to mull it over and you can become unnessesarily stressed. Nightmares are directly related to stress. As long as you weren't trying to summon anything into our world (asking a god(dess) to watch over your ritual is different) or using an oijua board, you have nothing to worry about.<br/><br/>If you and your Daughter are very close, you will probably find when she has restless night you have nightmares and visa-versa because your bond is so strong, and she will pick up on your worry as children are very sensitive to the workings of the great force. Kind of like when twins say they can feel each other's pain.
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Posted: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:29:23 PM

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Amazing to hear your story. I too chose to turn to Wicca because I lost my full term baby girl, Lauren, for no reason that they could find at all. She just 'stopped' a few hours before I was due for a C-Section and no one noticed in the hospital because I wasn't high risk.<br/>I believed in the Christian God but never felt he understood what a woman goes through with the loss of a child, which bears no resemblance to the loss of a sibling/parent etc.<br/>It seemed far more reasonable and believable that a female Goddess who had birthed the entire universe would understand that after many years I was still struggling and know EXACTLY how I was feeling.<br/>I set about becoming Wiccan carefully and with due reverance and consideration. I self dedicated myself to a year and a day of study. I read many books before casting my first circle and studied and celebrated the sabbats.<br/>I don't use magic often at all but have also done a home protection spell. <br/>Then I decided to see if I could try to heal myself. I wrote the spell myself and worded it VERY carefully. I did not ask for a cure, to move on, to put it behind me or anything like that. I asked to 'easier live with' and to 'better cope with' the loss of my daughter after six years of struggle when my family made me feel that I should have moved on by then.<br/>For a few days nothing happened and then one morning I was on the bus going to work and I suddenly gasped because I felt the most incredible sensation in my mind. There were no words only an overall message. If you want to grieve, you go ahead and grieve for as long as you want to. She's your daughter and you are her mother and you have the right. But above all live your life at the same time.<br/>So now the grief of my daughter is no longer a 'thing' I have to cope with but part of me like the shade of my eyes or the freckles on my nose. If I want to cry, I cry whether it be seven, seventeen or seventy years in the past.<br/>You are on the right path. If you want your deity to love you and understand your every painful thought tor your child. Go slow, maybe celebrate the sabbats before trying spellwork (you don't need to cast a circle for them). And above all rid your head of that sneaky worry that you are doing wrong. That's Christian bully tactics. Follow the Rede. It's fullproof and the Goddess and God know your intentions better than you know yourself.<br/>Blessed Be.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:47:46 PM

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Hi,

I hope you don't mind, but I really have only just now started to seriously consider wicca as a way of life, I guess you could say that I am going very caustiously - in fact I have been interested in wicca for many years, but never really took myself in hand to discover it properly, merely "dipped" into reading occasionally. Perhaps this is because I too am afraid that in spell casting I would be opening a door to misfortune or something evil - even though I know that the Rede says to do no harm to others - I think it's the christian hellfire and brimstone mentality rearing it's head.

Maybe I am finally coming to a better understanding of Wicca through of all things my dogs. Please don't think I am making fun, I am blessed with a beautiful daughter and can only guess at the pain you must have experienced. My pain came through the loss of a relationship that I thought was "right" - don't misunderstand, he is still very much alive, he just tore me out of his life at a time when I was emotionally and mentally vulnerable. I did try to find comfort in my religion, but I'm not sure I did.

My daughter has always wanted a dog, and in a weak moment I agreed and we researched what we wanted in a dog and finally decided on an Irish Setter - A breed I have loved since I was a child. It was the best thing I have ever done. We now have 2 Setters. I know I have rambled on, but there is a reason, I take my responsibilities seriously, and so I have found myself walking the dogs daily, and in doing so I have come to appreciate and revel in the area in which I have always lived. On a daily basis I now see the changing of the seasons, I see how nature and animals interact, I see complete joy in life as I watch the sun rise and my dogs frolic and jump in the disappearing morning mists, and I feel at peace. I don't know if that means anything, but to me it shows that there is a way forward, there is joy if you look for it.

I'm not sure what I am trying to say here, perhaps just that reading through this forum, I found your story and the response to it understandable, and perhaps illuminating in what I have been trying to understand in recent years.

thank you.
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:40:26 PM

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Firstly it is of the utmost importance to get a thorough understanding of the mechanics of ritual before engaging in any spellwork, secondly it is important to arm yourself with a banishing ritual such as the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram and practice such a thing for at least six months before engaging in any other forms of ritual. If this ritual is to christianized there are pagan versions available, i have an excellent one in Gaelic. The reason such rituals are important is that it is easy to call things into being yet hard to get rid of them. When one engages in ritual you are working at the astral level. This realm is not empty, but full off thought forms, elementals, shells of the departed, the smog of emotions that are in constant flux etc. When working with rituals you are directly linking in with this area of being and on occasion these entities can stray into your working area. By performing a banishing before ritual you clear the mind and sphere of sensation of any residual energies thus giving yourself a clean slate to work with. You also establish astral wards to prevent the intrusion of such entities. If the nightmare episode was a one off i wouldnt worry, if however it becomes regular, then the time for action is at hand. These things need to be nipped in the bud before they gain momentum, my advice to you would be to monitor the situation. I would also advise you before engaging in any more ritual to research about the functions of magic, the nature of the psyche and get information regarding the levels of being and what can be expected to reside within each. Many books you will find and also many teachers offer a very fluffy view of magic, and will push the idea that nothing can hurt you, unfortunately this way is most promenant in the pagan and New Age fields. This is not the case however and why before engaging in magical practice the correct training must be learned. This takes a lot of time and practice but is the safe and only way to proceed. With magic you are dealing with the subconcious mind, and those ill prepared can and have suffered things like full mental breakdowns etc. If under psychic attack it is the mind that is targeted, most people think of physical attacks and poltergeist phenomena, however the most common form is far more subtle, involving the manifestation of physical and mental illness and neurosis by attacking the mind and enaid. Again I urge you not to be overly concerned but to keep one eye open in the forth coming weeks, just to make sure. I will also repeat how important it is to get a thorough grounding in magical theory and psychology, such as he works of Jung. Books such as the one you describe are no good, kind of like the teach yourself guitar in a day nonsense. Learn from books by people who have the credentials and experience, like Israel Regardie, Agrippa, Lon Milo Duquette, John Michael Greer and Dion Fortune. The magical path is a very long one. If you are on the right path, then you will stick with it, if not the flake filter will kick in and you will not proceed. Physical, mental and spiritual preperation is a requirement that if denied can find you in some very bleak waters.

Take care and try not to worry

Daniel
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