Hello, quite new to forum so I'll cut to the chase... As a child I was surrounded by spirits and constantly chatted away to dead people but didn't realise until I was a teenager and then became utterly freaked out. I spent most of my teens ignoring them and hoping they would get fed up and go away which after a while they did. However I am now in my thirties and have just had my second baby, (not sure if relevant) but I find that for some reason the spirits are slowly bombarding me again, its a sensation like a tv turning on, the crackle of electric and then a very heavy sense of someone stood next to me, it took me ages to stop them coming in my teens and I just don't want this to come back. I have constantly been told I should embrace it and I did for a while in a spiritualist church but Iam so scared of anything dark coming to me, my guides do come to me and i do feel safe with them but I just want to tune the whole thing out. i am open to all advice if any out there. Many thanks and bright blessings to you allxxx

Greetings. Firstly and with any cases such as this the first port of call is to rule out any form of mental illness or underlying neurosis. It is my belief that there is no distinction between yourself and the average person, these so called 'gifts' are no such thing but merely the use of faculties we all possess yet fail to exercise. The only difference between a psychic and the average person is the ability to conciously percieve that which only registers in the subconcious of the average person. Dion Fortune made four classifications of psychics which whilst not all encompassing can aid us in diagnosing such problems. Firstly we have the natural psychic, this type of person is above average at sensing the subtle vibrations that interpenetrate us all the time. These type of people have difficulty in everyday life as they are bombarded by etheric sensations of all kinds. Unless these types of people use some kind of insulating technique then many if not all will suffer from neurosis of some kind, anxiety and nervous dispossitions are common. Drugs and exhaustion can enable the average person to fall into the trappings of the class. The second class are the type who can cut out sense impressions at will. This variety of psychism depends a lot on the ability to enter deep concentration. This is often one of the types taught, however such a technique is a laborous and difficult process. The third type of psychism is that in which the person holds the mind still and listens to the impressions that arise. This is simple to aquire and again one of the commonly taught methods, however it is wretchedly unreliable as the concious mind and preconcieved ideas etc can interfere with the impressions recieved. The final type is that of the the induced vision, sometimes aquired through the use of shamanistic techniques. Obviously a lot of people try and aquire some kind of psychic abilities. Many do so in a very haphazard way. People in jobs dealing with vast numbers of people, people with neurosis etc should either refrain altogether or learn the appropriate techniques to repulse such phenomena. Banishing rituals such as the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram are most effective, however constant practice is vital if it is to be effective. Conversing with the entities is also not recommended as they can form attachments to individuals. It is also worth noting that not all spirits are souls of individuals proper. Some can be shells of those who have gone through the process of the second death, and whilst retaining pieces of information and personality are more akin to insects in the sense they need sustanence from the emotions and energies of the level of resonance at which they exist. This unfortunately means those aspects with the basser human emotions and drives more often than not come into contact with us. If you wish to cut off all psychic contact, refrain from engaging in any occult or metaphysical practices. If however you are natural in your ability and have no control you may be well advised to practice some form of insulating technique such as the LBRP.

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Just as a note, The statement 'Unlike the two posts below, I have first hand experience' is rather bold and sweeping, as seeing as ive never met you I dont really know how such a statement can be made. Also using words such as 'different' I feel should best be avoided because it will have one of two effects upon the individual depending on their personality. Both effects have no place in the world of occult studies. Firstly by being labeled different, if you are so inclined your sense of isolation may increase leading to the path of desperation and experimentation with methods that no one in such a state should be attempting and also seeking reliance and explanation from those with dubious motivations. The second effect is that if inclined, will pander to ones ego which should in occult works seek to be reined in and harnessed or eliminated altogether. It will be noted that most groups or people who use the terms special gifts, or claim to have access to special knowledge are either doing so to massage their own ego or using such claims as a way to dominate others, such techniques are found in religious cults and some occult groups still in existence today. As stated in the my previous posts, your abilities are the same as everyone has, the only thing seperating you from them is the degree to which they are tuned. The same as an olympic athlete who can be said to be 'special'. They are not really as everyone has the ability to develop their body to such levels its just the want to do so that seperates them. Please dont take my word for it. Psychism is not difficult to develop, its the level to which you take it that takes time. The mechanics of psychism have been studied for years by occult groups, many of which are in published form. So take a look for yourself.

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While I understand what you are saying,I was refering to the use of the words different etc, with regards to what can be termed the magical conciousness. One of the main goals of this art is to eliminate the ego so as to manifest a finer form of conciousness. By using words like 'special, gifts' etc, you will in effect be using a form of auto suggestion on your own subconcious thus reinforcing your own ego. I wasnt implying that this is always done as a concious effort to elevate oneself above the general populace, although this does occur. As can be seen from the study of this art, things such as the Diagnostical and Statistical Manual can be observed and analysed however in terms of magical operation and probing the mechanics of the mind and matter such things must have the limitations recognised. A social norm as you know is a common set of behaviours, beliefs etc that is accepted by the majority. Of course this leads to a limiting world view especially when engaged in practices that reach well outside the majorities beliefs. Ponder this if you will, there once was a king who ruled over a small city. The people of the city loved the king and rejoiced at his leadership. One day the towns water supply was poisoned. The people drank and slowly became insane, roaming the streets and babbling. The king having a private water supply was uneffected. Before long the insane townsfolk started to wisper amongst themselves about the kings strange behaviour, he wasnt seen to be engaging in the practices they were and was seen to be going mad. Before long the king began to feel lonely and isolated, he couldnt converse with anyone as they were all mad. In his depression he set out for the town and drank from the poisoned well. Before long the towns people rejoiced that their king had 'regained' his sanity. As can be seen from this, by firmly adhearing to the majorities beliefs we can in effect hinder our own progression toward greater truth. Such majority beliefs should be seen for what they are beliefs and not truth. Therefore if suffering psychism in an isolated environment it is better to seek out greater truth than adhere to the beliefs of the people around you, only then can you achieve some kind of progression and break out of the isolation.

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I think the thing is to remember that with The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram you dont actually need any ceremonial garb to perform it. All you need is yourself and the time to practice it. I think it is also worth noting that the abilities used during this ritual are those that should be used in any other ritual, hence why this was and is used as a preliminary ritual in any ceremonial training. Or a least a variation of it. As you also mention, it is based on Judeo-Christian belief, however there have been numerous adaptations. I trained with the Aurum Solis and we had a ritual known as the Setting of the Wards of Power. This was very similar in structure although, we used different gestures, god names and angelic invocations to correspond with the group egregore. There are also pagan adaptations available. I designed one myself specifically for the system I now study. It is in Greek and employs the use of the circled cross instead of the pentagram. As for ceremonial magicians complaining, I am lucky in the sense that I sit between the two sides. The main complaint ceremonial magicians have is when pagans use the ritual and then 'slag off' for want of a better word all things ceremonial. People who do such things should justify their hypocrisy. Wicca itself was formed really from the basis of ceremonial magic. The thing is with such rituals as long as you employ the techniques and structure you can use any symbols and gods you like as long as they hold a resonance with you.

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Dear all
thanks for all the advice. i'm slowly but surely turning it off! I respect and value everyones views and I feel blessed you are all so caring. I feel as though I have to walk away from the spirits until I feel strong enough to embrace them with the respect they deserve.

blessed be xxx
alina xxx

Dear all i also seem to attract spirits. But they tend to be evil and corrupted and bring me a lot of bad luck. im only 15 and find it hard to shut them out. My parents (who are both wiccan) have tried a lot of spells but nothing seems to be working. For example one time as was putting my horse back into his stable when he started panicking, the minute this happened i fealt a very heavy presence trying to drag me towards my horse, i couldnt fight it and blacked out. when i came to i was in the hospital with a broken arm and a fractured leg.. i was told that after i collapsed i fell into the path of my horse and it landed on me. since then my parents actually started to accept that i was being shadowed by something set out to cause me hurt. and that was only one example, it will take too long to tell you the rest.
PLEASE I AM BEGGING FOR SOME ADVICE OR A SPELL as it seems to be getting stronger and every time i try to communicate with it, i hurt myself or get hit by a wave of deppresion. Believe me i am not lying about anything it is all true i am not senile.
blessed be x x

Hi its Alina, you sound like you're going through what I went through in my teens, I used to be woken up with punches in my back or my hair being pulled and all sorts of things around the house! So you,re not nuts for a start. For me the spirits feel like a tv turning on theres a crackling of electricity before they enter my conciousness, this is my warning signal, when I feel it my dad told me to envelop myself in a bright yellow light. Imagine a light twisting around you like a tornado to block the energies out, it takes a lot of energy and practice but it worked for a bit for me, try this as a quick fix until you can get some guidance from Dusty Angel whom I'm sure will have some more in depth advice. I really wish I knew why these things turn when your in your teens but it will end, however take my advice and try and learn about it because I turned it off in my teens when I got frightened and now they're back, but they're no threat as of yet, thankfully!!! Good luck Alina xxx

Hi Piper its Alina, my post above was for you I,m sorry if you missed it. I have been thinking about you and what you are going through. Take care and see if you can get some guidance.

It sucks being 31! LOL! I do remember being a teen and it does suck especially when you think you're going crazy. At the moment if you do have some form of psychic awareness it will be heightened because of your age. It will get better. I really wish I knew why things turn nasty at this age though. It could be all your pent up frustration at being that age causes your energy to change so you attract nasties!! When I was 15 I went downstairs to get a drink and a man was stood in the doorway to my kitchen, I'd felt him there before but I had never seen him. He was blazing with a black aura and I really freaked, as I had never seen things before. My dad was really open about things which helped me a lot. But you are very open to things at the moment. Please believe me though it will pass xxx Alina xxx